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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.25 13:05:00 -
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Paul Tsukaya wrote:Ravens are excellent at countering destroyers. You might have difficulty locking them quickly though. This is because you have your safety set to "green." If you set your safety to "red" then it increases your lock speed.
I spit my coffee out on my keys laughing. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.25 13:08:00 -
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7'62 SKS wrote:[Griffin, Hypnos Countercat]
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]
Super cheap, low skill, locks a catalyst in 2.5 seconds or so, each jammer has about a 8 in 11 chance of jamming one catalyst for 20 seconds, depending on skills. This could remove 4 catalysts from the equation far sooner than CONCORD will in a 0.5 system. One or two of these orbiting the miners could really put a kink in the DPS...if pilot reaction time is reasonable. Once a catalyst is locked and jammed, he will be completely disabled until CONCORD can arrive, take over jamming, and destroy the cat.
I have never understood why more people dont use ECM to protect against gankers.
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.25 15:39:00 -
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^ This |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.25 15:43:00 -
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Bottom line here, is that some people are adapting gameplay. They are at the keyboard, playing the game. Attempting to use actual countermeasures instead of whining to change gameplay. Im glad to see it. Adaptation and emergent gameplay right? Both sides should be happy. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.25 18:12:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Leto Thule wrote:7'62 SKS wrote:[Griffin, Hypnos Countercat]
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]
Super cheap, low skill, locks a catalyst in 2.5 seconds or so, each jammer has about a 8 in 11 chance of jamming one catalyst for 20 seconds, depending on skills. This could remove 4 catalysts from the equation far sooner than CONCORD will in a 0.5 system. One or two of these orbiting the miners could really put a kink in the DPS...if pilot reaction time is reasonable. Once a catalyst is locked and jammed, he will be completely disabled until CONCORD can arrive, take over jamming, and destroy the cat. I have never understood why more people dont use ECM to protect against gankers. I understand perfectly why they don't. If you think mining is boring, try guarding miners. I saw a miner get ganked one time by a newbro who slowboated past the "security" to the Retriever, bobbed around in space a bit while he got the nerve to do the needful, then he locked and killed the Retriever. The "security" woke up and try to stop the gank just as the retty sploded. I asked the guy via local why he didn't pre-lock and blow away the catalyst as soon as it went criminal. His answer: Youtube.
Should I be surprised? No.
Lol...
Maybe I should edit my statement to say "NON-AFK ECM".
Netflix should have its own KillBoard. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:54:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Silvetica Dian wrote:
You will rarely see a ganker and in my whole experiment i got ganked once.
I can't be everywhere.  Actually, I'm taking a break from ganking Miners to learn how to gank Explorers. Something different to do; even gankers get bored.
Hmm... that could be very entertaining! And those ships are EXPENSIVE! Youll need to update a bit more once you get a few down...  |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:10:00 -
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Grunanca wrote:Now the tears are gonna be complete when we use even more people to make the faction police not show up, and then kill your griffin for agressing us first 
Yeah, because I meant that ecm should jam any ship that lands on grid.
Obviously if it were me, I would wait until you went yellow to jam you. And since my griffen has an optimal range of around 70km, GASP I wouldnt be anywhere in range of your cat. (This is pointless, because it would never be ME protecting miners, but I digress..)
There seems to be some giant misunderstanding in C&P lately about "TEARS". It seems the current belief system goes with this.
Tears = ANYTHING THAT IS SAID by your target. Allow me to elaborate. TEARS = crying about something. Maybe a little rage fit in local, maybe a nasty post on the forums demanding a nerf to combat, ect.
NOT Tears = constructive attempts/posts ect that attempt to develop a working countermeasure. Just because someone doesnt want to get ganked doesnt mean they are crying about it. And furthermore, I am HAPPY that some of them are starting to try. Its honestly more fun for everyone.
LOL @ "tears".
And before you go off on calling me a carebear or some such, take a look at my sec status and KB on zkill. Im a pvp player. I dont cry over spilled pixels. |
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